Whilst presenting his experimental program on Berkley's K.P.F.A Radio, notorious audio meddler Carl Stone invited Vicki Bennett (aka A/V collagist People Like Us) to be his guest on the show. Twenty years later and with a wealth of experience behind of of them, the pair sit down again discuss the dramatic shifts in technology available to their artform and to the archive today. You can listen to the whole evening or read the full transcript here.

Thanks to Carl and Vicki, to Paul Skinner for the recording, to James Dunn for mixing it, to Peter Knight for the photo and to everyone came out during the World Cup.